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TGH - Veteran Commander by tacticangel TGH - Veteran Commander by tacticangel
An illustration regarding Eldar Guardians. This is probably what I would prefer they look like, for the record. Forget the established nomenclature. My ideas are sometimes not entirely in line with what is currently on the table.

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Baveboi Oct 28, 2012  Student General Artist
He looks like a weird cross of Dire Avenger and a Harlequin, perhaps would be better for a craftworld like Lugganath or some of the more esoteric craftworlds.
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:icontacticangel:
"Back in the day. . ." says the old man...

Yes, I feel more removed every day, but back in the day, Guardians had crests sometimes too! Then it was really kind of tough to tell them apart.
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Baveboi Oct 31, 2012  Student General Artist
I feel the pain. The rainbow is duller every year. But believe it or not I referred to the fact they are wearing weave clothing instead of the bodysuit the miniatures now favor.

The crests look superb, they should stay. More eldar besides the Aspects should wear more stylized headpieces. I lost count of how many different Space Marine models there are, why not Eldar.
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thevampiredio May 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
man!! this is so cool!!
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:iconvon-bad:
WHAT !!!! you disagree with the rehashed canon of the GW Imperium of Cash ?!?! Heretic!

I think you are safe really if you compare the early Rogue Trader "canon" with the current lore, it just proves they cannot agree with themselves.

Awesome piks by the way . I think Guardians would be more individualistic and varied in their look and armour due to the milita nature of their formations. The Aspects would be more uniformed in nature.
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I don't mean to impune the current version of the fluff. I don't know it well enough to comment. I meant more along the lines that this shouldn't be compared with the current on-board organizational structure of the Guardians.

As far as Eldar, I think they ought to have more variation than they do for both Guardians (who probably have similar type gear, but are not uniform because they have armor that is probably crafted hundreds of years apart, some passed down, others modified by a race of artisans) as well as in terms of the Aspects, who should certainly be close thematically, but have very little in common with what we consider a 'professional army.' They have a lot more in common with feudal systems or Bushido than the USMC.
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IMHO a Guardian should actually never been seen by an enemy on an open battlefield. the price of life for the Eldar is so high that to risk a militia civilian in open war would be considered so risky and pointless as to negate any real battelfield role. the only time it makes sense for the Eldar guardians to appear would be in purely a last stand, defence.

if spirit stones can act as a central processor for a war machine, then Eldar armies would just be a mass of constructs with aspects warriors acting as special action formations to ensure decisive events are acheived, which is all achieved by virtual pskyer "sight" of the warlocks.

again my opinion. :)
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:icontacticangel:
It is understandable. Eldar prefer to get other people to fight for them if at all possible. In fact, I have gone to great lengths to show how that works in Immortal Enemies.

...but that said, the 'militia' nature of Eldar Guardians comes with a stigma that isn't quite fair. Technically Spartans were militia too. There is a moral side to the use of wraith units: disturbing the dead to fight the wars of the living. It is understandable, but the Eldar find it distasteful according to the fluff. Necromancy. It makes some sense.
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ah militia ... i take it to mean the following, courtesy of the free online dictionary.
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.

I won't argue the interpretation of canon/fluff since it is conjectual, contradictionary and seems to ends in Ishas tears. but in my opinion the only true death for eldar is to be consumned by she who thirsts. the use of spirit stones to "serve" in constructs is essentially protecting the living. it also stands to reason that eldar technology is etheric energy so could a spirit stone be programmed with an "artifical spirit" to serve in a combat role, much as digitial drones are. however the best spirit stones for war constructs would probably be those fallen aspect warriors, as their souls are locked/focused and would be ideal to serve as eternal warriors.
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